8 March 1995

Public Program

Taipei (Taiwan)

Talk Language: English | Transcript (English) – Draft

[Talk starts at 4:27] Robert, could you fix this a little higher? Thank you. I bow to all the seekers of truth. At the very outset, we have to know that truth is what it is. We cannot change it. We cannot transform it. We have to feel the truth on our central nervous system. The word ‘bodh’ means you have to feel it on your central nervous system. From here comes the word ‘Buddha’, the one who is enlightened.

Also, in Sanskrit, there is a word called ‘Vid’ from where the word ‘Veda’ has come, means to know on your central nervous system. In our evolutionary process we have come to this human awareness. Unfortunately you cannot know the truth unless and until you ascend through a new breakthrough into your awareness. So what is the truth? The truth is that there is this subtle system within you built-in during your human evolution. And that once this power of Kundalini which is in a triangular bone rises through, and pierces through your fontanelle bone area, she becomes one with this All-pervading divine Power of love. We see these beautiful flowers and it’s a miracle but we don’t think like that. You take it for granted. If you ask a doctor who runs your heart, he will say it is the autonomous nervous system. This autonomous nervous system is done by which ‘auto’? He can’t answer that question.

There is a power which is subtle, which we have never felt, which is of divine love. Which is all pervading. This power does all the living work. So the truth is that you are not this body, this mind, this ego, the emotions, intelligence, but you are the pure Spirit. Because you say this is my body, this is, these are my emotions, this is my intelligence. Now who is this ‘my’, who is this me? Now whatever I am telling you, you should not take it for granted. We have had lots of problems with blind faith. Thus keep your mind open as scientist and keep this as a hypothesis. If it shows results, if it works, then you have to accept it as honest people. Because it is for the benevolence of yourself, benevolence of your family, your society, your country and the world at large. At this human level we do not know [translator interrupts], at this human level we do not know the absolute truth.

For example, I am sitting before you, you can see me sitting here, so there is no argument, there is no quarrel. You will only know the absolute truth when you will become the Spirit. We have so, so many kinds of ideologies, philosophies, but what we find, that it’s not the ultimate answer. There is no peace in this world. We have no peace within ourselves. I have met many people who have got awards for peace, for organisations of peace. But they are so bad tempered and hot tempered, you have to approach them with a barge pole. I don’t know how they got peace awards? So, the first thing that happens to you is that you become absolutely peaceful. It is like you are standing in the water and you are afraid of the waves. But somehow if you can get into a boat you can enjoy the same waves. In the same way, when you learn how to swim you can go down and save people from getting drowned.

This is what happens to you, that you are living on the thoughts of the past and the future. One thought rises and falls down, another thought rises and falls down. But if I tell you to be in the present you cannot. Actually, the past has finished and the future does not exist. So, when this Kundalini rises she elongates these thoughts. She pushes them aside and a space is created within you in between. This space is the present. When your attention stays on this space you become thoughtlessly aware. You are aware, absolutely aware, but thoughtless. And the present is the reality. This is the first state you achieve.

Then the second state you achieve, which we call as doubtless awareness, is where you know everything about yourself, complete self-knowledge you get. And not only that but you become your own master. There you have no doubts about yourself. You realise you are a divine person and there is protection of the Divine on you. This happens to people sometimes both stages at the same time.

Tao is the one in that system. [Translator speaks of Tao] Ha! Lao-Tse has said the same thing. But I think the tradition is now lost. This is the same thing as Tao. Only thing was, that time there were not so many Realised souls. Now the time has come for you to know the truth. In these modern times, there are thousands and thousands of seekers of truth. It has already been depicted like that, it has already been described. These modern times have created these beautiful seekers of truth. But they are misled by false people. These false people are nothing but crooks because they want to make money out of you.

The other day I met one gentleman who was shaking before me and he had been to some guru in Vietnam. I, I saw the material. They had used all the chakras, the names of the chakras. You see, mistakes but they had used the same thing as here. It’s like copying- [Cut in the audio from 21:45 -21:50] They are not genuine people at all. What is the copyright of genuineness? So you can’t pay for it. How much did we pay to this mother earth for giving us these flowers? It’s a living process of evolution, try to understand. So then, we turn to religion.

For example, Christ was a very, very great pure soul and incarnation. But he was too high. He never knew what sort of people he was facing in this world. So in the Bible, in the fifth chapter of Matthew’s, he says, "If your one eye does anything sinful thing, you - means if you look at a woman with bad eyes - you take out your eye". If your right hand does anything wrong, then cut it out. I’ve been to all sorts of Christian nations, I have not met one who has taken out the eye, cut his right hand, left hand. To follow Christ is not easy. One has to be an angel to follow him. But Christ never had an exclusive religion. He talked of Abraham, of Moses, of everyone. And then about Christianity if you can say, but he never said his religion is different from the religions of Abraham or of Moses.

And Mohammed Sahab also he talked of Abraham, of Moses, of Christ, even his Mother, very respectfully. Also, he said there have been hundred and fifty thousand Realised souls before him. [To the translator:] Hundred and fifty thousand Realised souls before him, Mohammed Sahab said. Translator: Hundred and fifty? Shri Mataji: Hundred and fifty thousand Realised souls before him. So he never talked of exclusive religion. Of course, he was also a great incarnation, so he thought only Christ has dealt with men, and left it to human beings. Left it for the human beings themselves to cut their hands and take out their eyes. So, he asked others to do it. And for women he said, "Any woman has a bad eye, should be buried half-way in, in the soil and should be beaten with stones". Think of American women, I don’t know what would have happened to them.

So in the democratic countries we have abandonment of every value system started, and you have problems from that, lots of problems. You have licentiousness, permissiveness, Aids, all sort of problems. Now, so the reaction to that was fundamentalism. So one side is complete licentiousness, another side is complete suppression. Both things are just the same.

Once, I was travelling from Riyadh to England and I just slept off. When I got up, I found very different people: ladies with such small skirts and men very [unclear]. All smoking and drinking. So I asked the air hostess: who are these people? The same Arabs, she said. They are going to London now, so they are getting ready for London’s life. With oppression they become even more immoral. So this is not the solution. From one extreme to another extreme, you have to come to the middle path. Once you become the Spirit you develop that middle path culture. Automatically, you become righteous, you become righteous. No one has to tell you ‘don’t, don’t’, no one has to tell you. In England, overnight people gave up drugs, I must tell you. All your bad habits just drop. It’s like this: supposing I have a snake in my hand and I am very obstinate and it’s all dark. And you tell me that ‘there’s a snake in your hand’. I will not listen because - because I am obstinate. But if there is little light immediately I’ll throw away the snake. That’s what happens. In the light of the Spirit, you become aware: what is destructive and constructive for you. Then the light of the Spirit enlightens your attention. Your eyes become pure. And even a glance of such a person can give peace or can cure another person, even the glance. These properties are within you, potentially there. Actually you don’t know how glorious you are. You have no idea about your being which is within you. One has to have a personality which is known to him, means the identity of his personality you should have.

Now the another quality of the Spirit is that it gives you the absolute knowledge. Now how? If you stretch your hands, on your fingertips you can know the centres of another person and your own self. If you know how to correct your centres, you can correct the centres of others. These centres are responsible for all the problems, that is physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual. If these centres are cured you can cure many things without going to the doctors. With your own power. Actually after that you don’t go to doctors. It is very simple to understand that all curative power is within yourself. In Delhi, there are three doctors who got their MD, for curing through Sahaja Yoga system. Many incurable diseases are cured. Its power if it is within us, why not use it?

This is very surprising that a country like Russia has taken to Sahaja Yoga so seriously. They do not have any conditionings of any religion or materialism, nothing. 65% of people in Russia are very, very clean. [To the translator:] 65% of Russian people are very clean. And I would say 35 are very materialistic. They ask for Marlboro cigarettes or for jeans. [Shri Mataji is smiling] But the St Petersburg’s university, they’ve given Me an award. One of the ten, so far. And one of them has been given twice. I said, "I am an ordinary housewife", I was feeling very shy about it. I said, "How can you give Me with Einstein?" So the Vice President said, "Mother what Einstein has done is work on matter, you are working on human beings".

Then the Russian government saw my work and the Government has given Me the award, the government. No other falsehood allowed. This is very remarkable how these people have taken to truth. There are 2500 doctors in Russia who are practising Sahaja Yoga. I know also mainland China – I have been four, five times. The people of mainland China will be the other who will take to Sahaja Yoga. [To the translator:] Mainland China, I’ve been four times. They will take to Sahaja Yoga. Chinese have a very big tradition of wisdom. They are known for their wisdom. They should know that when they are getting into materialism, there are problems that are created by materialism.

But if you become the Spirit, your attention becomes so pure that you know how to earn better and live better. Firstly, it gives you peace. Now I’m 72 years of age and I’m travelling practically every second, third day. But, I don’t have problems. In the same way, as I said, you jump in the boat and you see your problems and you can solve them much easier. Moreover, you become one with the Divine power, which is the most alert, most compassionate and efficient power. It protects you. It protects you completely. It guides you through divine vibrations.

But firstly, you must know you can become that. I have seen people come to my program and then just disappear. Actually, I’m a foreigner, but they have faith in Me. They listen to Me and when we have Sahaja Yogis who have their own culture, I don’t know what happens to them? In the beginning the sprouting of the seed takes place. But then you have to grow to be a tree. It’s like the parables of Christ when He says, "Some seeds sprouted but fell on the marshy ground", something like that. So, you have to respect your Self-realisation. I say this because you are wise people. Americans are like babies. They are very immature. I think they’ll take at least twenty years more to understand. They run after all kinds of false people, waste their money, waste everything.

Now there’s a new guru has come. All others have made money and nicely settled down. All are experts. Some people told Me this new guru has taken all their money, everything. So what did he do? He called one man from the audience and said, "I can teach you how to control the mind of this man". And he gave him a pendulum in his hand. So now I can make the pendulum go round and round. And the fellow started moving the pendulum round and round. This is stupidity to be impressed by such things. So I asked him, "On this earth, you have come to move pendulums? Is that what you are seeking? Why did you give him so much money?" "Now we can sue him", they said.

I think, I thought in America there’s no law, you can’t get anything out of that. And then they want to fly three feet high like that. For that they pay thousands and thousands of pounds. But why do you want to fly three feet? We already have jams on the road. If you are for such stupid things, nobody can help you. Sahaja Yoga is not meant for idiots. Those who have no respect for themselves, how can you work it out? It works very fast with people who earnestly want to have their Self-realisation. The greatest quality of the Spirit is that it is the source of joy. You are joyous with yourself. You don’t have to fast, you don’t have to leave your family, you don’t have to go to Himalayas. Sitting down here you can get your Self-realisation. But you have to have faith. You’ll be amazed how much it helps you every day. For example in England there is so much of people getting jobs. Even very well educated, even. But all the Sahaja Yogis are employed. They all have earned sufficient and they are satisfied.

So now it will take hardly fifteen minutes for you to get your Realisation, at the most. But I must confess I cannot force Self-realisation on you. Because I respect your freedom. Those who do not want to have their Self-realisation can leave the hall. But please don’t disturb others when they are getting their Self-realisation. You won’t have any problem. You won’t face any difficulty and all of you can get your Realisation.

All right. Now I have to tell you there are three conditions, very simple. You have to sit comfortably. And as there are two powers you have to put both the feet apart from each other. You have to know that this power, Kundalini, is the power of pure desire. All other desires that we have are not pure. And you know the economic law that ‘wants are not satiable in general’. That means today you want to have a house and you want to have a car and you want to have a helicopter, maybe a plane. You go on all the time asking for something else because whatever desires you have are not satisfied. So this is the only thing this power, which is the pure desire, whether you are aware of it or not. In this short lecture, I am sorry, I cannot tell you everything about Sahaja Yoga. But I would request all of you to come to our follow-up programs and grow with it. That means all your physical, mental, emotional and Spiritual problems will be solved. For which you don’t have to pay but you have to give some time to yourself.

Now there are three conditions as I told you. The first one is that this All-pervading Power is the power of forgiveness. So please, forgive yourself. That means you should not feel guilty at this moment about anything whatsoever. At this moment your past is finished and don’t feel guilty at all. That means you should be pleasantly placed towards yourself.

The second condition is that you have to forgive everyone. Not to think about anyone whom you have to forgive but in general say, "I forgive everyone". Many people say, It’s very difficult to forgive". But whether you forgive or don’t forgive, you don’t do anything. But when you don’t forgive, then you play into wrong hands. You torture yourself and the other person who has troubled you is happy. You are torturing yourself. So please, forgive everyone in general.

The third request is to take out your shoes. I tell you this because in England, first time when I asked them to take out their shoes, the English walked off, half of them. So much attached to their shoes. But in the Eastern countries, people know that to be respectful, we have to take off shoes. Apart from that, this mother Earth sucks our problems. I’ll be happy if you could take off your shoes. Mine is not coming. [The translator helps Shri Mataji to take off her shoes.] It’s all right. Thank you.

[Realisation process starts]

So, be pleasantly placed towards yourself. Don’t be angry with yourself or with anyone. Now the left side, as he must have told you, is the power of your mundane desires. And the right side is the action, power of action. So we all put our left hand towards Me, like this, on your left lap, open, open.

Now we have to use the right hand for nourishing our centres on the left-hand side. So firstly, put your right hand on your heart, keep under the coat. Now in the heart resides the Spirit. If you become the Spirit you become your own master. So now take your right hand, left-hand side of your abdomen, on upper portion and press it hard. This is the centre of mastery. Now take your right hand in the lower portion of your abdomen on the left-hand side. This is the centre, amazingly is for the pure divine knowledge. Now raise your right-hand upper portion of your abdomen. And now raise your right hand on top of your heart. Now raise your right hand in the corner of your neck and shoulder. And turn your head to your right. This is the centre goes into jeopardy when you feel guilty. Turn your head to your right. As a result, you develop a disease called spondylitis or angina, also your other organs become lethargic. Also cancer, cervical cancer.

So please, raise your right hand on top of your forehead across. And put down your head. This is the centre for forgiving, forgiving others. Now please take your right hand on the back side of your head and push back your head. Now here without feeling guilty, without counting your mistakes, push back your head: ask, ask, you have to ask the divine power to forgive.

Now the last centre: please stretch your palm fully, and put the centre of your palm on top of the fontanelle bone area. Now please put down your head. Here very important is to stretch back your finger so there is a good pressure on your scalp. Now move your scalp seven times clockwise. Put down your head, put down your head. That’s all we have to do.

Now, please put your left hand on top of your left lap. Please put both your feet apart from each other. Now you have to close your eyes. Please don’t open your eyes till I tell you. Please don’t close them tight, just like as you sleep.

Now please put your right hand on to your heart. Here you have to ask a very fundamental question about yourself to Me. You can call Me Mother or Shri Mataji. Please say in your heart, not loudly, ask a question, "Mother, am I the pure Spirit?" Please ask three times.

If you are the Spirit, you become your own guide, your own master. So please take your right hand in the upper portion of your abdomen on the left-hand side and press it. Here again you have to ask another fundamental question about yourself. Please ask three times, "Mother, am I my own master?"

Now, I have already told you that I respect your freedom and I cannot force your divine knowledge on you. Now please take your right hand in the lower portion of your abdomen on the left-hand side. Now, here you have to say six times, "Mother, please give me Your divine knowledge".

As soon as you ask for pure divine knowledge, the Kundalini has started rising. So we have to nourish the higher centres with our full self-confidence. You have to know all of you are going to get your Self-Realisation. Be confident. So now raise your right hand in the upper portion of your abdomen on the left-hand side. Now here you have to say with full self-confidence, "Mother, I am my own master". Say ten times. With full self-confidence in your heart. [Speaking to the translator]: You are too close to the thing.

Now I have already told you at the very outset that you are not this body, this mind, these emotions, intelligence, ego and your conditionings but you are the pure Spirit. Please take your right hand on your heart and here you have to say twelve times with full confidence, "Mother, I am the pure Spirit".

Now, if the All-pervading Power is the ocean of knowledge, is the ocean of compassion and love, is the ocean of miracles, but above all it is the ocean of forgiveness. So whatever mistakes you have committed in the past, please forgive yourself. Now take your right hand in the corner of your neck and shoulder and turn your head to your right. Here you have to say sixteen times, "Mother, I forgive everyone, I forgive myself. Mother I am not guilty". You see at this moment if you don’t say this, this centre won’t open and Kundalini won’t be able to rise through this centre. So you will miss such a great opportunity. So please say sixteen times. Now if you can take out your glasses without opening your eyes it’s better. [To the translator:] You are too close to the mike, there.

Now raise your right hand on top of your forehead across and put down your head as far as possible. Here you have to forgive everyone without thinking about them by saying, "Mother, I forgive everyone". This centre is on the optic chiasm where we can see. You have to say it from your heart, not from your tongue. If you don’t say it, then this centre won’t open which is very important.

I have already told you whether you forgive or don’t forgive, you don’t do anything. It’s a myth, it is a myth. So just now please forgive is very important. Now please remember without feeling guilty, without counting your mistakes, just for your satisfaction, you have to ask forgiveness from the All-Pervading power.

So, please take your right hand on the back side of your head and push back your head as far as possible. Push back your head, push back. Here you have to say from your heart again, not how many times, "Oh Divine Power, if I have done anything wrong, knowingly or unknowingly, please forgive me".

Now the last centre I’ve told you, you have to stretch your palm fully and push back your fingers and put the centre of your palm on top of the fontanelle bone area. And now push down your head. Now push back your palm. Put down your head please. Here again I cannot force Self-realisation on you. So you have to move your scalp seven times clockwise asking Me, "Mother please give me my Self-realisation", seven times. [Shri Mataji blows in the microphone several times]

Now take down your hands. Open your eyes. Now put both the hands towards Me like this. Put the right hand like this forward and see with the left hand bending your head if there’s a cool or a hot, breeze like vibrations coming out of your fontanelle bone area. If you have not forgiven, it could be hot breeze, so please forgive yourself or forgive others.

Now bend you head, put the left hand towards Me like this. And now put the right hand on top of your fontanelle bone area. Now bend your head. Some people get it close, some people get it far, you have to move your hand.

Now please, put again once more your right hand towards Me and bend your head and see for yourself if there’s a cool or a hot breeze like vibrations coming out of your fontanelle bone area. Now please put both the hands up like that, to the sky, push back your head and ask a question, out of these three questions, any one of these questions, three times, "Mother, is this the cool breeze of the Holy Ghost?" It's the first question, ask three times. Or you can ask, "Mother, is this the All-Pervading Power of Divine Love?" Otherwise, you can ask this question three times, "Oh Mother, is this Parama Chaitanya or Ruh?" You can ask this question three times.

Now, please now put down your hands. Please now put your both the hands towards Me like this. And watch Me without thinking.

All those who have felt, cool breeze on their fingertips or on the palm or out of their fontanelle bone area, whether hot or cold, raise both your hands. Those who have felt, please put both the hands. May God bless you. You have now felt it, so many, I can feel it from you.

I bow to all of you. Your saintly life has started. Those who have not felt should not feel disappointed, in no way. You see, we have a very nice centre here and very nice people, very humble, who know everything about Sahaja Yoga.

[Addressing a member of the public] You did not feel, you did not feel, sir? He did not feel? This gentleman. Ah, not felt. What’s the matter, you have some other master? [Translator speaks to Shri Mataji about it]. That’s it. So you come and get it cleared out. You see, these are all wrong type of people and sometimes they stop it. All right? Not only they take money from you, not only they take money from you, but also, they spoil your Kundalini. Also, they give diseases and trouble sometimes. It’s all right, don’t worry.

I will be coming next year again, but before that I have to make a request that you must look after your Self-realisation. Now we have got somebody, a doctor from Austria and the Austrians are doing for Sahaja Yoga. He’s here. So, I request you all to respect your own Self-realisation and your own spiritual growth. Also, if you have any problems, you can write to Me. I would just now say that you enjoy yourself, enjoy your Spirit. May God bless you. [Applause] Thank you very much. [Applause]

[Some more information is given in Chinese. End of recording]