30 October 1989

Interview

Istanbul (Turkey)

Talk Language: English | Transcript (English) – Draft

30 October 1989, Interview, Istanbul (Turkey)

We have got people from America who have come to work out here. ` Sahaja Yogi: He is a judge from Austria. He's a judge from Austria, yeah? and that one is from America,she's [UNCLEAR] .

Peki siz bizi nasıl buldunuz? How you find us?

Bilmiyorum henüz olayı. I dont know yet.

Shri Matajiyi daha öncesinde dinlediğim için.

Because I listened Shri Mataji before.

Herhalde siz de birşeyler söyleyeceksiniz.

I think you will say something also.

Don't feel shy, come along. Why don't you come along? Also, come along, all of you. Yogi: I come also here. this is from Iran Hamid, this is Akbar also from Iran. So, you come this way.

Yogi: All one family.

Large family, yeah. Welcome in the Mother. Come along. After we have so many people. You could sit here. Come, come here. You too come here. Come along. Don't feel shy now, come along. Now we, are we all there? Enough for the interview. Please sit down. She wants to interview, no?

Interviewer: You have got so many guests, so I take some information from her and then ask some questions to you. Yogini: Maybe it's better to ask Shri Mataji. Yogini: Have a tea, having a tea you can ask. All right, you can ask, all right. What is the name of the newspaper? Interviewer: Günaydın Günaydın? Is it in English? Interviewer: It is Good Morning in English, no, it's Turkish. Turkish. What do you call it in Turkish for United? Interviewer: No, Günaydın Interviewer: Good morning. But what is in Turkish I'm saying for that? Yogini: In Turkish it's "günaydın" In English it means good morning. Oh, the same way. Interviewer: In the morning when you see somebody you say "günaydın" in Turkish. Like in English you say good morning in the morning time.

I see. Interviewer: Like hello in the morning.

I heard good night, I said how can there be good night in the newspaper? Yogini: It's one of the famous newspapers in Turkey. Interviewer: How long are you going to stay here? I'm here till the th. Interviewer: Four days. Interviewer: First time? Second time. Interviewer: Could you tell me about you a bit? Myself? Interviewer: Yes, yourself.

What should I tell you? I was born in India. I knew from my childhood that I have to do this work of giving self-realization to people. It's a, we're born in a royal family, so ours is a royal family. And they have also a calendar. But now it's a long time back they were there. And my father also was a great soul. He was a master of languages. And he translated Quran-e-Sharif into Hindi language. Interviewer: All that is his own purpose.

My mother was a honors of mathematics. But my whole idea was to find out a way any method by which I could give amass realization. Normally they take one disciple, work hard on that disciple and mostly it works, then it's all right. Otherwise they say, all right, we can't do it every time. So in our country this knowledge was known to us for thousands of years. But only, I always say poetically that there were very few flowers on the tree of life. So they could not become fruits. But today I think it's a blossom time. And in 1970 , 5 th May, I discovered a method by which I could do that in amass realization It's a happening, actually. It's an actualization and a happening that takes place. You can see in so many people when there is obstruction, this power that is in the triangular bone is pulsating. You can see it in naked eyes. And you can also see the rising of this power in some people. But those who are quite normal, it just shoots off. But otherwise, if there is any obstruction, you can see it. This power is in the triangular bone called as sacrum. That means sacrum is a word comes from the Greeks. So the Greeks knew about it. That's why they called it sacred. Translator: In Turkish also we know it as sacrum. Interviewer: How do you see it?

You see, in the people, as I said, there is obstruction and it's rising. Then you can see it moving like a little movement of a wing, you see. But it is like you can say a seed. If you plant it in the Mother Earth, it sprouts by itself. In the same way, this is the thing is like a primule, like the primule is the germ. It just comes up by itself. Interviewer: How do you get it to move, to move?

See, it's so spontaneous, spontaneous. It is built in you and it is built in me, all right? It's like the Mother Earth is built in you with that power. And the seed has got built in it. So when you put the seed in the Mother Earth, it sprouts in the same way. Interviewer: Maybe you just show the method.

No, no, no, no method. You see, it's just, even if they put hands like this, you see, it works. Just putting hands like this, it works. She might have got it. Just see, put it on her head. You feel a cool breeze in the head? Your head. Now, but just now see, are you, take out the pencil from her head. Just put it on her head. She's got her eyes open, you know.

Yogi: Yes, she's got it.

Are you feeling it? Are you feeling? Because I could see your eyes. You see, the blinking is that way. But now you see. Shining. Yogini: Shining, sparkling Mother, all the time. Interviewer: What's this?

That you become the Spirit. And it's so joyous, so joy-giving. Interviewer: And then, what happens more?

Now, now, this, with this you can, you become a collective being. Now, you can feel others. These are all the centers, the three centers within us. You can feel the centers of another person. You can cure others. You can give them realization. Everything you can. Centers, subtle centers, energy. Medically it can be explained also. Yogini: She is surprised?

That's Turkish, that's Turkish character. Don't have to work very hard here. You just get it like that? Interviewer: I was afraid.

No, nothing to be afraid of. Interviewer: The first time.

Yes, it's just the first time. Just like that. That means you are great. Interviewer: I am healty

Yes, you are cool. You are cool. Very good. And not only, but you get the power now. You can give opinion to them. You can raise their Kundalini. This is called as Kundalini, this power. You can give them realization. You can feel it yourself. And you can know what's wrong with them. Because the Spirit is the collective being within you. It's the collective being. So you become collectively conscious. You are human awareness gets a new dimension. Is it in Turkish language?

Yogi: This is Turkish.

And you feel absolutely relaxed. Nothing bothers you. Great Translator: What is she just asking? by this energy Are capable to move the things?

No, that's not important. That's not a very good thing. Also things are moved by the another method, which you call as the Great Avidya. Means comes from the symmetry, from the Great. That's not a good thing.

Interviewer: Why do they you Nirmala? Nirmala, my name is Nirmala. Nimala. Devi. Devi is called to any woman in India. It's called Nimala. That's the name. That's my name. Yogini: It means pure.

Yes, it means, Nirmala means pure. Immaculata. Nirmala means, but Devi they put to anyone they can call. Just give respect. Translator: What is your aim in this Sahaja Yoga?

Just to give joy to everyone, their own joy. You see, you have got within yourself this joy in a dormant state. Just to expose you to that, that's all. And you can't pay for it. There is no obligation, nothing. Like one candle which is enlightened can enlighten another candle. Then we realize that we are all one, part and parcel of the whole. And such a transformation takes place that you become a peaceful person within. No agitation, no aggression. And with that this transformation the whole humanity can change. Now we are working in thirty-six nations. And in Russia, we are very successful Russia. So this is what has to happen to us. Interviewer: What do you suggest to unhappy people to get happy?

For example, these days I am unhappy, what should I do? The source of happiness is your spirit. Nobody can give you happiness, joy. It only comes from your spirit. So when your spirit comes in your attention, you become so joyous and you want to share this joy with others. Interviewer: Thank you very much.

May God bless you, may God bless you, happy to meet you all. And now you come to my program and you become a master and you have to become the master yourself. By this, by this journalism improves. I've seen musicians improve, everything once become dynamic and compassionate. Interviewer: Tomorrow night I will come definitly your lecture, for your Self Realization.

Interviewer: Where do you live in India?

I live in London now, my husband is, he is elected as Secretary General of the International Maritime Organization, you see in the UN. So I'm in London with him. Interviewer: Thank you very much. Thank you, thank you. Interviewer: See you tomorrow.

Yes, please. What's your name?

Interviewer: My name is Firuzan